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	<title>Comments on: Library 2.0 &#8211; Is it Techie Or Not?</title>
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	<description>David Lee King is the Digital Branch &#38; Services Manager at the Topeka &#38; Shawnee County Public Library, where he plans, implements, and experiments with emerging technology trends. He has spoken in the U.S. and Canada about emerging trends, website usability and management, digital experience planning, and managing techie staff, and has been published in many library-related journals. David writes the Internet Spotlight column in Public Libraries Magazine with Michael Porter. David maintains a blog at http://www.davidleeking.com</description>
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		<title>By: Citegeist &#187; Another attempt at illustrating Librarian 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-17710</link>
		<dc:creator>Citegeist &#187; Another attempt at illustrating Librarian 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Lee King added another post this afternoon that serves as a good frame for the above video, laying out his thoughts on whether [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 7 Reasons to Get Away To Unleash Your Best&#8230; &#8212; Software Freeware User Manuals</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Reasons to Get Away To Unleash Your Best&#8230; &#8212; Software Freeware User Manuals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] code, someone else has to install the blog software on a server, and yet someone else    source: Library 2.0 Is it Techie Or Not?, David Lee [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux &#171; Life as I Know It</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9630</link>
		<dc:creator>Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux &#171; Life as I Know It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Library 2.0 - Is It Techie Or Not? -posted on August 3, 2007. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Deschamps</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Deschamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a pratfall in your analogy David.   While driving a car is not necessarily an engineering (or even a mechanic) feat, the people who are enthusiastic about cars often know alot more about their insides than your average driver.

There is a side of library 2.0 that wants people not only to write and push &quot;publish&quot; but also to be enthusiastic about it, and eventually to learn more.   Yes, even going so far as understanding more complicated things like XML, PHP, &amp; server maintenance.

Of course different folks will take different trajectories on their learning curve. . .  some may get into really effective journalizing, or pro-level photography and/or film editing.  But my impression has always been that library 2.0 is about continuous learning.   The blog is merely one avenue toward that end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a pratfall in your analogy David.   While driving a car is not necessarily an engineering (or even a mechanic) feat, the people who are enthusiastic about cars often know alot more about their insides than your average driver.</p>
<p>There is a side of library 2.0 that wants people not only to write and push &#8220;publish&#8221; but also to be enthusiastic about it, and eventually to learn more.   Yes, even going so far as understanding more complicated things like XML, PHP, &amp; server maintenance.</p>
<p>Of course different folks will take different trajectories on their learning curve. . .  some may get into really effective journalizing, or pro-level photography and/or film editing.  But my impression has always been that library 2.0 is about continuous learning.   The blog is merely one avenue toward that end.</p>
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		<title>By: the state of libraries and the admin blog &#171; Librarian Like Me.</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9176</link>
		<dc:creator>the state of libraries and the admin blog &#171; Librarian Like Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the transitions that are happening in librarianship. This is evidenced in his recent post about the non-techie truth about library 2.0 - and he is spot on. Give it a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like these examples much better. In my opinion 2.0 is simply being following trends to serve patrons (proactive) and going where the users are and providing those services (reactive). That doesn&#039;t mean technology. If users are complaining that they need a bookmobile, you build one. If a patron wants a book, you buy it, but you need to stay ahead of the game to know what they are going to ask in the future. To me that is 2.0, the technology pieces seem to muddy the waters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like these examples much better. In my opinion 2.0 is simply being following trends to serve patrons (proactive) and going where the users are and providing those services (reactive). That doesn&#8217;t mean technology. If users are complaining that they need a bookmobile, you build one. If a patron wants a book, you buy it, but you need to stay ahead of the game to know what they are going to ask in the future. To me that is 2.0, the technology pieces seem to muddy the waters.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Campion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Campion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 tools are (or were) techie.  Library 2.0 is social.  It&#039;s the social environment that is opening up for libraries using these tools.  (And you can make a good argument that &#039;social environment&#039; and &#039;techie&#039; are mutually exclusive terms!)

So must you be techie to get your library to thrive in the social web?  Not at all.  In fact, my experience shows me that the more a techie gets wrapped up in the tools, the more he loses sight of the social environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 tools are (or were) techie.  Library 2.0 is social.  It&#8217;s the social environment that is opening up for libraries using these tools.  (And you can make a good argument that &#8217;social environment&#8217; and &#8216;techie&#8217; are mutually exclusive terms!)</p>
<p>So must you be techie to get your library to thrive in the social web?  Not at all.  In fact, my experience shows me that the more a techie gets wrapped up in the tools, the more he loses sight of the social environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Greenhill</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9013</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Greenhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(No, you wouldn&#039;t put a sitemeter or a feedburner feed on an internal blog at all. Doofus! ...Note to self...checking editing after you change an idea in a post, but before pressing &quot;submit comment&quot;, is a non-tech skill worth learning)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(No, you wouldn&#8217;t put a sitemeter or a feedburner feed on an internal blog at all. Doofus! &#8230;Note to self&#8230;checking editing after you change an idea in a post, but before pressing &#8220;submit comment&#8221;, is a non-tech skill worth learning)</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Greenhill</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/03/library-20-is-it-techie-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-9012</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Greenhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that to be a Library 2.0 pioneer, you needed to be very techie, and at the start it was about these techie tools. In the last 6 months, more libraries seem to have moved out of the pioneer, experimental phase and into the production phase of L2 services. 

Before this, the prominent bloggers and users of L2.0 were techie sorts and had to be. They understood the tools and understood that these tools would bring new attitudes - but they had to get the rest of the library world understanding the new tools before the new attitudes would flow. 

The tech tools are what enables things like &quot;crafting and modifying library provided services&quot; and someone on the library staff needs to know the tech tools out there to be able to say no to proprietary software.

In the production phase, you do not need to be techie to:
*understand the need for Library 2.0
*ensure there are staffing and resources to serve our customers in this way
*to be a front line worker delivering service using Library 2.0 tools (eg. writing blog posts). 

A year ago, Library 2.0 was similar to the time way, way back, when I was in a library demonstrating the internet to the executives in my parent organisation.  I did need to be techie - I had to bring in my modem from home, know how to use trumpet winsock and how to create a sample html page etc. I would rather have just &quot;used the stuff&quot; than know how to set it up - but to get the resources to use the stuff, I had to know how to run it - there was no-one else in the organisation able to.

This has been similar with many Library 2.0 services - to get tools that enable conversations with our users, get them appreciated by other library staff, get a &quot;proof of concept&quot; happening, there is a lot of techiness involved in both setup and education. We&#039;d rather just use it, but for many of us, knowing how it works underneath and how to stop it falling over is essential if we are going to get our colleagues using it with confidence.

In your blogging example I think you have left out a layer, which is where many of us work and it is about technology. For an internal library blog, for example, you install the blog software, set up a template, use hex code to determine the colour scheme, add items to a sidebar, get a feedburner feed, maybe a sitemeter, set up the .htaccess file so that it can only be read by a certain IP range. 

Yes, we&#039;d all rather Jane from IT did this bit, but in many organisations, there is no Jane and for us it is about knowing more techie stuff than we want to just so we can get the services up and running so that someone eventually employs a Jane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that to be a Library 2.0 pioneer, you needed to be very techie, and at the start it was about these techie tools. In the last 6 months, more libraries seem to have moved out of the pioneer, experimental phase and into the production phase of L2 services. </p>
<p>Before this, the prominent bloggers and users of L2.0 were techie sorts and had to be. They understood the tools and understood that these tools would bring new attitudes &#8211; but they had to get the rest of the library world understanding the new tools before the new attitudes would flow. </p>
<p>The tech tools are what enables things like &#8220;crafting and modifying library provided services&#8221; and someone on the library staff needs to know the tech tools out there to be able to say no to proprietary software.</p>
<p>In the production phase, you do not need to be techie to:<br />
*understand the need for Library 2.0<br />
*ensure there are staffing and resources to serve our customers in this way<br />
*to be a front line worker delivering service using Library 2.0 tools (eg. writing blog posts). </p>
<p>A year ago, Library 2.0 was similar to the time way, way back, when I was in a library demonstrating the internet to the executives in my parent organisation.  I did need to be techie &#8211; I had to bring in my modem from home, know how to use trumpet winsock and how to create a sample html page etc. I would rather have just &#8220;used the stuff&#8221; than know how to set it up &#8211; but to get the resources to use the stuff, I had to know how to run it &#8211; there was no-one else in the organisation able to.</p>
<p>This has been similar with many Library 2.0 services &#8211; to get tools that enable conversations with our users, get them appreciated by other library staff, get a &#8220;proof of concept&#8221; happening, there is a lot of techiness involved in both setup and education. We&#8217;d rather just use it, but for many of us, knowing how it works underneath and how to stop it falling over is essential if we are going to get our colleagues using it with confidence.</p>
<p>In your blogging example I think you have left out a layer, which is where many of us work and it is about technology. For an internal library blog, for example, you install the blog software, set up a template, use hex code to determine the colour scheme, add items to a sidebar, get a feedburner feed, maybe a sitemeter, set up the .htaccess file so that it can only be read by a certain IP range. </p>
<p>Yes, we&#8217;d all rather Jane from IT did this bit, but in many organisations, there is no Jane and for us it is about knowing more techie stuff than we want to just so we can get the services up and running so that someone eventually employs a Jane.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Browser + Web 2.0 Applications + Connectivity = Full-featured OPAC
(Techie skill if the library does this themselves, but not if they buy it from a vendor) &quot;

I&#039;d say it&#039;s a miracle if the library does it; as in a library is not a &quot;them.&quot;

So, where exactly is the difference between someone with tech skills at a library doing it versus someone with tech skills at a vendor doing it?  

I have no doubt you can find one.  When you do, that might be where a difference lies. Perhaps.

If the 2.0 goal is connecting and empowering users then why exactly does it matter whether it is done by library personnel or simply bought by library personnel?  

If we assume that formula for a full-featured OPAC is reasonable (and I will for the sake of argument), then it is irrelevant as to its &quot;techiness&quot; whether it is created in the library or bought.  I would argue that it matters in other ways (local support, having tech qualified staff, ...), but who creates it is irrelevant to whether or not it is a tech skill to create it.  It simply is.

But again, if a library can do it (or anything at all) I&#039;m calling it a miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Browser + Web 2.0 Applications + Connectivity = Full-featured OPAC<br />
(Techie skill if the library does this themselves, but not if they buy it from a vendor) &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a miracle if the library does it; as in a library is not a &#8220;them.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, where exactly is the difference between someone with tech skills at a library doing it versus someone with tech skills at a vendor doing it?  </p>
<p>I have no doubt you can find one.  When you do, that might be where a difference lies. Perhaps.</p>
<p>If the 2.0 goal is connecting and empowering users then why exactly does it matter whether it is done by library personnel or simply bought by library personnel?  </p>
<p>If we assume that formula for a full-featured OPAC is reasonable (and I will for the sake of argument), then it is irrelevant as to its &#8220;techiness&#8221; whether it is created in the library or bought.  I would argue that it matters in other ways (local support, having tech qualified staff, &#8230;), but who creates it is irrelevant to whether or not it is a tech skill to create it.  It simply is.</p>
<p>But again, if a library can do it (or anything at all) I&#8217;m calling it a miracle.</p>
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