Comments on: The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed With Me http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/ David Lee King is the Digital Branch & Services Manager at the Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library, where he plans, implements, and experiments with emerging technology trends. He has spoken in the U.S. and Canada about emerging trends, website usability and management, digital experience planning, and managing techie staff, and has been published in many library-related journals. David writes the Internet Spotlight column in Public Libraries Magazine with Michael Porter. David maintains a blog at http://www.davidleeking.com Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » OPLIN 4cast #71 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-19135 The OPLIN 4cast » Blog Archive » OPLIN 4cast #71 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:33:32 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-19135 [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed With Me (David Lee King) [...] [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed With Me (David Lee King) [...]

]]> By: Lee http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-18134 Lee Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:14:45 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-18134 This was refreshing. Thanks. This was refreshing.

Thanks.

]]> By: Woeful http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10722 Woeful Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:02:51 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-10722 Needless to write, I'm commenting here extremely late and I apologize for that, but I just discovered this discussion by conducting an experimental Google timeline search regarding "Library 2.0." Satirical or not, the "tone" of AL's discussions is corrosive, not beneficial to the profession, and I don't find it "funny" in any way. S/he is exceptionally condescending to public librarianship, and I can't abide it. I don't feed the troll, in fact, I don't even visit anymore. I link to AL from my blog out of reciprocity, nothing more. Normally, I wouldn't even waste my keystrokes commenting about AL, but this is an exceptionally good discussion. Needless to write, I’m commenting here extremely late and I apologize for that, but I just discovered this discussion by conducting an experimental Google timeline search regarding “Library 2.0.” Satirical or not, the “tone” of AL’s discussions is corrosive, not beneficial to the profession, and I don’t find it “funny” in any way. S/he is exceptionally condescending to public librarianship, and I can’t abide it. I don’t feed the troll, in fact, I don’t even visit anymore. I link to AL from my blog out of reciprocity, nothing more. Normally, I wouldn’t even waste my keystrokes commenting about AL, but this is an exceptionally good discussion.

]]> By: Today’s Old News : Manage This! http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10152 Today’s Old News : Manage This! Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:28:07 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-10152 [...] revisit the discussion, debate or the tangled skein of yarn, take a look at David Lee King’s post The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed with Me and Annoyed Librarian’s post An Alternative Voice in Librarianship. There are plenty of comments [...] [...] revisit the discussion, debate or the tangled skein of yarn, take a look at David Lee King’s post The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed with Me and Annoyed Librarian’s post An Alternative Voice in Librarianship. There are plenty of comments [...]

]]> By: Veel commentaar, maar hoe… at Moqub’s bibliotheek van dingen http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10029 Veel commentaar, maar hoe… at Moqub’s bibliotheek van dingen Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:46:23 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-10029 [...] David Lee King. Blijkbaar was het commentaar van dusdanig aard dat David een eigen post kreeg. En David reageerde hier op via zijn eigen weblog. Met ook weer veel commentaar. Heerlijk zo’n [...] [...] David Lee King. Blijkbaar was het commentaar van dusdanig aard dat David een eigen post kreeg. En David reageerde hier op via zijn eigen weblog. Met ook weer veel commentaar. Heerlijk zo’n [...]

]]> By: Rainy Day Webrarian » More on the Librarian 2.0 wars, aka, the twopointopians http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9769 Rainy Day Webrarian » More on the Librarian 2.0 wars, aka, the twopointopians Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:55:33 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-9769 [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed With Me [...] [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed With Me [...]

]]> By: Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux « Life as I Know It http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9632 Library 2.0 Roundup - Redux « Life as I Know It Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:03:14 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-9632 [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed with Me - posted on August 30, 2007. [...] [...] The Annoyed Librarian is Annoyed with Me – posted on August 30, 2007. [...]

]]> By: Pattern Recognition » Twopointopians http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9530 Pattern Recognition » Twopointopians Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:57:22 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-9530 [...] of people have weighed in, both in the comments and on their own blogs…see Meredith, KGS, and David Lee King for more). I did want to comment briefly on the AL’s followup post, “An Alternative [...] [...] of people have weighed in, both in the comments and on their own blogs…see Meredith, KGS, and David Lee King for more). I did want to comment briefly on the AL’s followup post, “An Alternative [...]

]]> By: davidleeking http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9510 davidleeking Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:48:45 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-9510 Joshua - here's my observation of AL - he/she says something meant to inflame or at least to be humorous in a sarcastic way (the way she ripped into that manifesto, for example). And then his/her commenters tear into it and anyone who says something they don't like. Anonymity is wonderful - no one knows if you're a dog :-) Joshua – here’s my observation of AL – he/she says something meant to inflame or at least to be humorous in a sarcastic way (the way she ripped into that manifesto, for example). And then his/her commenters tear into it and anyone who says something they don’t like.

Anonymity is wonderful – no one knows if you’re a dog :-)

]]> By: davidleeking http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9509 davidleeking Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:42:40 +0000 http://www.davidleeking.com/2007/08/30/the-annoyed-librarian-is-annoyed-with-me/#comment-9509 Shannon - I partially agree with you. And I have probably said the "get it" phrase at some point. Here's where I agree - A twopointopian might very well "get" the web 2.0 stuff - they are the ones who understand how to create a blog, edit the php behind it, customize the CMS, etc. But here's what that person might NOT get - the system-wide strategic planning that might be needed to implement and sustain a blog. Answering the "why do we need this" in language his/her administration might understand. And here's where I disagree - there's a reason people ask me to write and speak about this stuff (just using myself as one example of many here). For example, I just spoke at a smaller library yesterday about 2.0 stuff. They asked me because I do, in fact, understand it, and they didn't (they do now :-). So yes - there are certainly extremes. But sometimes, the get it/don't get it language is also appropriate. Shannon – I partially agree with you. And I have probably said the “get it” phrase at some point.

Here’s where I agree – A twopointopian might very well “get” the web 2.0 stuff – they are the ones who understand how to create a blog, edit the php behind it, customize the CMS, etc. But here’s what that person might NOT get – the system-wide strategic planning that might be needed to implement and sustain a blog. Answering the “why do we need this” in language his/her administration might understand.

And here’s where I disagree – there’s a reason people ask me to write and speak about this stuff (just using myself as one example of many here).

For example, I just spoke at a smaller library yesterday about 2.0 stuff. They asked me because I do, in fact, understand it, and they didn’t (they do now :-) .

So yes – there are certainly extremes. But sometimes, the get it/don’t get it language is also appropriate.

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