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	<title>Comments on: PLA 2008 Day 1: What Does it Take to be Good at Reference in the Age of Google?</title>
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	<description>David Lee King is the Digital Branch &#38; Services Manager at the Topeka &#38; Shawnee County Public Library, where he plans, implements, and experiments with emerging technology trends. He has spoken in the U.S. and Canada about emerging trends, website usability and management, digital experience planning, and managing techie staff, and has been published in many library-related journals. David writes the Internet Spotlight column in Public Libraries Magazine with Michael Porter. David maintains a blog at http://www.davidleeking.com</description>
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		<title>By: 100 Free Library 2.0 Webinars and Tutorials &#124; College@Home</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Does it Take to be Good at Reference in the Age of Google?: Read David Lee King&#8217;s notes on a presentation given to encourage librarians to improve their reference facilities with web 2.0. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: iLibrarian &#187; PLA 2008 Presentations</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/28/pla-2008-day-1-what-does-it-take-to-be-good-at-reference-in-the-age-of-google/comment-page-1/#comment-18628</link>
		<dc:creator>iLibrarian &#187; PLA 2008 Presentations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidleeking</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/28/pla-2008-day-1-what-does-it-take-to-be-good-at-reference-in-the-age-of-google/comment-page-1/#comment-18569</link>
		<dc:creator>davidleeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - you have an email about that. What do I really believe? I believe what Kathy said, above: &quot;Great summation and you captured his flavor.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; you have an email about that. What do I really believe? I believe what Kathy said, above: &#8220;Great summation and you captured his flavor.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Imparato</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/28/pla-2008-day-1-what-does-it-take-to-be-good-at-reference-in-the-age-of-google/comment-page-1/#comment-18568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Imparato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you say, &quot;But I didn&#039;t say this, Joe did!&quot; I am fully aware that you were just reporting. As Joe also wrote to me &quot;Hi Jeff—I gave up trying to be sure people get my words exactly right a long time ago; in my experience people often hear what they want to.&quot; You heard what you wanted to hear, filtered by your own life experiences, so what do you REALLY believe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you say, &#8220;But I didn&#8217;t say this, Joe did!&#8221; I am fully aware that you were just reporting. As Joe also wrote to me &#8220;Hi Jeff—I gave up trying to be sure people get my words exactly right a long time ago; in my experience people often hear what they want to.&#8221; You heard what you wanted to hear, filtered by your own life experiences, so what do you REALLY believe?</p>
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		<title>By: davidleeking</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/28/pla-2008-day-1-what-does-it-take-to-be-good-at-reference-in-the-age-of-google/comment-page-1/#comment-18567</link>
		<dc:creator>davidleeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, please don&#039;t put words into my mouth. This post consists of notes I took from the session - not my words.

I highly respect everyone who works at our library - degree or no. But part of this session DID talk about how to handle the desk differently - in fact, this was mentioned many times at PLA. And I wrote those notes down. Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, please don&#8217;t put words into my mouth. This post consists of notes I took from the session &#8211; not my words.</p>
<p>I highly respect everyone who works at our library &#8211; degree or no. But part of this session DID talk about how to handle the desk differently &#8211; in fact, this was mentioned many times at PLA. And I wrote those notes down. Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Imparato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Imparato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

When you&#039;re at a public service desk, please look around.  You won&#039;t see a single nurse there, unless that&#039;s what you consider those without MLSs.  What you will see is dedicated staff who have been, for over 30 years, integrated into one unit. While we each have specialized knowledge, we all are required to treat each question seriously. 

I don&#039;t have to guess what Joe had to say, I asked him myself, and he said nothing about &quot;dumb questions.&quot; He did say that deeper, richer questions are better suited to professionals. That does not preclude that other questions shouldn&#039;t be answered.

What would your solution be?  Only have those without MLSs work the Public Service desks, and answer what you call the &quot;dumb questions&quot; and have the patron wait for these &quot;nurses&quot; to contact a professional to answer the &quot;richer, deeper question?&quot; In this world of &quot;instant messenging&quot; with instant expectations, do YOU want to wait? and who determines what questions are &quot;dumb?&quot; 

Another solution in your world is for only MLS Professionals to work the desk, and call a non MLS   staff member to tell a person where the bathroom is.

A final solution in your world of &quot;dumb questions&quot;  is for a MLS Librarian to work with a non MLS staff member. When a patron ask me, as an MLS Librarian, where the bathroom is, I have to say &quot;Sorry, I can&#039;t answer that, I only answer important questions.&quot; 

Yes, all ridiculous situations.

The solution we have now, is for everyone at the desk attempt to answer the question, realizing that we certain people on staff who are more suited to address certain questions.  Notice I didn&#039;t say only MLSs, because there are many who work the Public Service desks, who have specialized knowledge, such as Reader&#039;s Advisory in certain genres; and those who have a highly specialized knowledge of needlecraft, who are much better suited to give advanced knowledge to the patron.

As a trained professional for over 25 years, I know there are no &quot;dumb&quot; questions. To believe so shows disrespect to the patron.  It is also disrespectful to my co-workers to believe that only MLSs are qualified to answer &quot;richer, deeper&quot; questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re at a public service desk, please look around.  You won&#8217;t see a single nurse there, unless that&#8217;s what you consider those without MLSs.  What you will see is dedicated staff who have been, for over 30 years, integrated into one unit. While we each have specialized knowledge, we all are required to treat each question seriously. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to guess what Joe had to say, I asked him myself, and he said nothing about &#8220;dumb questions.&#8221; He did say that deeper, richer questions are better suited to professionals. That does not preclude that other questions shouldn&#8217;t be answered.</p>
<p>What would your solution be?  Only have those without MLSs work the Public Service desks, and answer what you call the &#8220;dumb questions&#8221; and have the patron wait for these &#8220;nurses&#8221; to contact a professional to answer the &#8220;richer, deeper question?&#8221; In this world of &#8220;instant messenging&#8221; with instant expectations, do YOU want to wait? and who determines what questions are &#8220;dumb?&#8221; </p>
<p>Another solution in your world is for only MLS Professionals to work the desk, and call a non MLS   staff member to tell a person where the bathroom is.</p>
<p>A final solution in your world of &#8220;dumb questions&#8221;  is for a MLS Librarian to work with a non MLS staff member. When a patron ask me, as an MLS Librarian, where the bathroom is, I have to say &#8220;Sorry, I can&#8217;t answer that, I only answer important questions.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, all ridiculous situations.</p>
<p>The solution we have now, is for everyone at the desk attempt to answer the question, realizing that we certain people on staff who are more suited to address certain questions.  Notice I didn&#8217;t say only MLSs, because there are many who work the Public Service desks, who have specialized knowledge, such as Reader&#8217;s Advisory in certain genres; and those who have a highly specialized knowledge of needlecraft, who are much better suited to give advanced knowledge to the patron.</p>
<p>As a trained professional for over 25 years, I know there are no &#8220;dumb&#8221; questions. To believe so shows disrespect to the patron.  It is also disrespectful to my co-workers to believe that only MLSs are qualified to answer &#8220;richer, deeper&#8221; questions.</p>
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		<title>By: davidleeking</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidleeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you&#039;re missing Joe&#039;s point. You have a master&#039;s degree - is it put to good use when you show people where the bathroom is or point to a dictionary or help someone find a computer? No, it&#039;s not.

It&#039;s very similar to other professions - does a doctor weigh you or take your temperature? No - that&#039;s the nurse&#039;s job. The doctor is thus freed up to use his skills and knowledge.

With Joe&#039;s model, someone else would be set up to answer those types of questions, freeing MLS-types to do things worthy of an advanced degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you&#8217;re missing Joe&#8217;s point. You have a master&#8217;s degree &#8211; is it put to good use when you show people where the bathroom is or point to a dictionary or help someone find a computer? No, it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very similar to other professions &#8211; does a doctor weigh you or take your temperature? No &#8211; that&#8217;s the nurse&#8217;s job. The doctor is thus freed up to use his skills and knowledge.</p>
<p>With Joe&#8217;s model, someone else would be set up to answer those types of questions, freeing MLS-types to do things worthy of an advanced degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Imparato</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/03/28/pla-2008-day-1-what-does-it-take-to-be-good-at-reference-in-the-age-of-google/comment-page-1/#comment-18559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Imparato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We can do better than that.  We don&#039;t have to answer the dumb questions anymore.&quot;  Well, at least Google doesn&#039;t call them dumb questions. Where is the respect that we&#039;re supposed to have for EVERY question? Yes, it might have been a question that people ask everyday, but it&#039;s still unique to the person asking right then.  When patrons ask questions, they are exposing their ignorance, and they don&#039;t need any attitude from us that their question isn&#039;t important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can do better than that.  We don&#8217;t have to answer the dumb questions anymore.&#8221;  Well, at least Google doesn&#8217;t call them dumb questions. Where is the respect that we&#8217;re supposed to have for EVERY question? Yes, it might have been a question that people ask everyday, but it&#8217;s still unique to the person asking right then.  When patrons ask questions, they are exposing their ignorance, and they don&#8217;t need any attitude from us that their question isn&#8217;t important.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summation and you captured his flavor.
I&#039;m glad I found your comments because Janes did not have a handout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summation and you captured his flavor.<br />
I&#8217;m glad I found your comments because Janes did not have a handout.</p>
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		<title>By: What does it take [to be good at collection development] &#171; Collections 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>What does it take [to be good at collection development] &#171; Collections 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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