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	<description>David Lee King is the Digital Branch &#38; Services Manager at the Topeka &#38; Shawnee County Public Library, where he plans, implements, and experiments with emerging technology trends. He has spoken in the U.S. and Canada about emerging trends, website usability and management, digital experience planning, and managing techie staff, and has been published in many library-related journals. David writes the Internet Spotlight column in Public Libraries Magazine with Michael Porter. David maintains a blog at http://www.davidleeking.com</description>
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		<title>By: Attracting Friends, Part 3: Facebook &#124; David Lee King</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-23764</link>
		<dc:creator>Attracting Friends, Part 3: Facebook &#124; David Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on Friending [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ATTRACTING FRIENDS ON TWITTER PART 1 &#38; 2 at SocialMediaCampus - NYU</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19813</link>
		<dc:creator>ATTRACTING FRIENDS ON TWITTER PART 1 &#38; 2 at SocialMediaCampus - NYU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple posts ago, I suggested that libraries stop friending other libraries and to focus instead on their local community. (aside - If you need/want to connect with other librarians, that’s great - make your own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couple posts ago, I suggested that libraries stop friending other libraries and to focus instead on their local community. (aside &#8211; If you need/want to connect with other librarians, that’s great &#8211; make your own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: King me, or, a stranger&#8217;s just a friend you haven&#8217;t met. &#171; Library Alchemy</title>
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		<dc:creator>King me, or, a stranger&#8217;s just a friend you haven&#8217;t met. &#171; Library Alchemy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] take, for example, the phenomenon of &#8220;friending&#8221; on social media.  A recent series of posts on this topic made me smile and sigh with relief. You see, I was worried I was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] take, for example, the phenomenon of &#8220;friending&#8221; on social media.  A recent series of posts on this topic made me smile and sigh with relief. You see, I was worried I was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Attracting Friends, Part 1 &#124; David Lee King</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19777</link>
		<dc:creator>Attracting Friends, Part 1 &#124; David Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple posts ago, I suggested that libraries stop friending other libraries and to focus instead on their local community. (aside - If you need/want to connect with other librarians, that&#8217;s great - make your own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couple posts ago, I suggested that libraries stop friending other libraries and to focus instead on their local community. (aside &#8211; If you need/want to connect with other librarians, that&#8217;s great &#8211; make your own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: davidleeking</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19774</link>
		<dc:creator>davidleeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobbi - your comment, together with Jessica&#039;s sums it up pretty well - there&#039;s no easy answer, that&#039;s for sure! I was thinking more of library accounts that friend other library accounts (rather than librarians). So instead of seeing &quot;David Lee King&quot; as a friend, they&#039;d see 20 &quot;some town public library&quot; friends - obviously not real people, local or distant.

Nonetheless, interesting take - thanks for adding to what is becoming quite the discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobbi &#8211; your comment, together with Jessica&#8217;s sums it up pretty well &#8211; there&#8217;s no easy answer, that&#8217;s for sure! I was thinking more of library accounts that friend other library accounts (rather than librarians). So instead of seeing &#8220;David Lee King&#8221; as a friend, they&#8217;d see 20 &#8220;some town public library&#8221; friends &#8211; obviously not real people, local or distant.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, interesting take &#8211; thanks for adding to what is becoming quite the discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19773</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have you read Groundswell? It purports that only a percentage of people are joiners. Check out their profile tool - for example, I put myself into it (42 year old US-based male), and here’s what their research shows: only 34% of my age group are joiners. More in the next quote…&quot; 

- except I would argue that if the people are on a social networking site, which they had to join to have an account on, the percentage of joiners would be significantly higher since they have already demonstrated that they are joiners by signing up

Speaking for myself, I always look - I don’t want to friend a spam site, a person more interested in selling me something, etc… And I’ve read danah boyd, who says “… that “public displays of connection” serve as important identity signals that help people navigate the networked social world, in that an extended network may serve to validate identity information presented in profiles.” danah’s research implies that they do, in fact, look.

- I&#039;d agree that they do look for people they know. I know I do, if someone friends me I&#039;ll glance through their contacts to see if there is any name or face I recognize.  But I don&#039;t usually click on the profiles of their contacts that I don&#039;t know.  So I wouldn&#039;t know if another friend was a dentist or a librarian.  Since, as danah points out,  most people are looking to reinforce connections they already have, not seek out connections with people they don&#039;t know, I think this is the approach most people take.  They look the profiles of  people they don&#039;t know when someone they know interacts with them, to expand their connections.  Think Facebook, you friend me, if I didn&#039;t know you I can glance at your friends and see if I know anyone (FB actually tells me how many friends we have in common).  After we are friends you activity shows up in my news feed on my home page, so if you comment on the Wall of a one of your friends I don&#039;t know I&#039;ll see it.  This is the public display of connection, in a way by your connection with them you are vouching for them and the info in their profile and introducing them to me. Depending on how interested I am in what you said I may look at the persons profile and possibly friend them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have you read Groundswell? It purports that only a percentage of people are joiners. Check out their profile tool &#8211; for example, I put myself into it (42 year old US-based male), and here’s what their research shows: only 34% of my age group are joiners. More in the next quote…&#8221; </p>
<p>- except I would argue that if the people are on a social networking site, which they had to join to have an account on, the percentage of joiners would be significantly higher since they have already demonstrated that they are joiners by signing up</p>
<p>Speaking for myself, I always look &#8211; I don’t want to friend a spam site, a person more interested in selling me something, etc… And I’ve read danah boyd, who says “… that “public displays of connection” serve as important identity signals that help people navigate the networked social world, in that an extended network may serve to validate identity information presented in profiles.” danah’s research implies that they do, in fact, look.</p>
<p>- I&#8217;d agree that they do look for people they know. I know I do, if someone friends me I&#8217;ll glance through their contacts to see if there is any name or face I recognize.  But I don&#8217;t usually click on the profiles of their contacts that I don&#8217;t know.  So I wouldn&#8217;t know if another friend was a dentist or a librarian.  Since, as danah points out,  most people are looking to reinforce connections they already have, not seek out connections with people they don&#8217;t know, I think this is the approach most people take.  They look the profiles of  people they don&#8217;t know when someone they know interacts with them, to expand their connections.  Think Facebook, you friend me, if I didn&#8217;t know you I can glance at your friends and see if I know anyone (FB actually tells me how many friends we have in common).  After we are friends you activity shows up in my news feed on my home page, so if you comment on the Wall of a one of your friends I don&#8217;t know I&#8217;ll see it.  This is the public display of connection, in a way by your connection with them you are vouching for them and the info in their profile and introducing them to me. Depending on how interested I am in what you said I may look at the persons profile and possibly friend them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19699</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I agree with what you said in the first post and with your follow up... I&#039;m a library school student who has a personal account on Twitter which I use for the specific purpose of connecting with friends. I&#039;ve found that a lot of libraries and librarians from all over the country want to friend me, I assume because I have the word &quot;library&quot; in my profile description! But the posts that they make usually don&#039;t demonstrate any targeted use of the medium and in many cases I&#039;ve de-friended them for clogging my feed with play-by-play notation of conferences and so on. Likewise, I find it very hard to believe they have a genuine interest in my cats or the soup I made for dinner - mine is a personal account and I talk about personal things there. That includes some amount of library-related information, but not so much as to bore my non-library friends.

Having a lot of contacts might look good on your profile page, but it doesn&#039;t serve any other purpose if you are reaching out to people who aren&#039;t interested or are outside your sphere of action. And to my way of thinking, having a lot of contacts is not necessarily a benefit - when I get a request, I always look at the number of FOLLOWERS an account has as well as the number of people they are following. For the way I choose to use the tool, people with a big gap between those numbers are not generally people I want to follow me. There are exceptions that I make for institutions which ARE active in my sphere (such as BART - Bay Area Rapid Transit). But those exceptions are unlikely to include a library in another state, unless the employees fall under my &quot;friend&quot; umbrella.

My feeling is that a lot of people don&#039;t understand that different users of Twitter have different goals and that therefore there are multiple usage patterns. Your recommendation of Darren Rowse’s article was spot on and should hopefully help give folks some direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I agree with what you said in the first post and with your follow up&#8230; I&#8217;m a library school student who has a personal account on Twitter which I use for the specific purpose of connecting with friends. I&#8217;ve found that a lot of libraries and librarians from all over the country want to friend me, I assume because I have the word &#8220;library&#8221; in my profile description! But the posts that they make usually don&#8217;t demonstrate any targeted use of the medium and in many cases I&#8217;ve de-friended them for clogging my feed with play-by-play notation of conferences and so on. Likewise, I find it very hard to believe they have a genuine interest in my cats or the soup I made for dinner &#8211; mine is a personal account and I talk about personal things there. That includes some amount of library-related information, but not so much as to bore my non-library friends.</p>
<p>Having a lot of contacts might look good on your profile page, but it doesn&#8217;t serve any other purpose if you are reaching out to people who aren&#8217;t interested or are outside your sphere of action. And to my way of thinking, having a lot of contacts is not necessarily a benefit &#8211; when I get a request, I always look at the number of FOLLOWERS an account has as well as the number of people they are following. For the way I choose to use the tool, people with a big gap between those numbers are not generally people I want to follow me. There are exceptions that I make for institutions which ARE active in my sphere (such as BART &#8211; Bay Area Rapid Transit). But those exceptions are unlikely to include a library in another state, unless the employees fall under my &#8220;friend&#8221; umbrella.</p>
<p>My feeling is that a lot of people don&#8217;t understand that different users of Twitter have different goals and that therefore there are multiple usage patterns. Your recommendation of Darren Rowse’s article was spot on and should hopefully help give folks some direction.</p>
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		<title>By: davidleeking</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidleeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended Aaron and Sarah&#039;s presentation - great stuff!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.davidleeking.com/2008/11/12/more-on-friending/comment-page-1/#comment-19697</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the focus on any marketing should be local. There are benefits from getting attention on a national scene when it isn&#039;t restricted by location (for instance, a post on Teleread about our library&#039;s Overdrive subscription resulted in many out of county cards for us and for Phoenix Public Library). 

There were a couple of great presentations on how to attract the digital locals at Internet Librarian. I wrote a post about two of them here: http://gathernodust.blogspot.com/2008/11/whos-talking-about-your-library.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the focus on any marketing should be local. There are benefits from getting attention on a national scene when it isn&#8217;t restricted by location (for instance, a post on Teleread about our library&#8217;s Overdrive subscription resulted in many out of county cards for us and for Phoenix Public Library). </p>
<p>There were a couple of great presentations on how to attract the digital locals at Internet Librarian. I wrote a post about two of them here: <a href="http://gathernodust.blogspot.com/2008/11/whos-talking-about-your-library.html" rel="nofollow">http://gathernodust.blogspot.com/2008/11/whos-talking-about-your-library.html</a></p>
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